Results 1 to 9 of 9

Thread: Maintenance? We don't need no stinkin' maintnenace!

  1. #1
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Molalla, Oregon
    Posts
    778
    Thanks
    257
    Thanked 539 Times in 281 Posts

    Default Maintenance? We don't need no stinkin' maintnenace!

    The property managment company didn't think septic maintenance was important. Now the owner may be looking at a new sand filter and drainfield. Oops! I made nearly $800 off the job by the time we dug up the drainfield, jetted the sand filter manifold, cleaned the bio tube and pump, pumped the tank. The geniuses who installed the system put the pump in a 1000 gallon single compartment tank with only one access hole. Yep, gotta remove the pump and basket to even check the tank! By the way all of the plumbing to the riser wall had to be removed to get the blue basket out of the tank. Nice! We were on this job for three and a half hours.

    Nasty bio tube.jpg
    Clinkscales Portable Toilets
    & Septic Service

    http://www.ClinkscalesSeptic.com
    NAWT Certified Septic Inspector and Member
    O2WA Board Member

  2. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Trent2 For This Useful Post:

    SewerRat (08-15-2012), UnclogNH (08-15-2012)

  3. #2
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    1,126
    Thanks
    552
    Thanked 840 Times in 372 Posts

    Default

    So if there was only one manhole in this tank I assume that the vault was sitting at the inlet end of the tank. Am I right?

    We generally use a hot saw and cut a new opening in the outlet end of the tank if we are installing a pump vault in an existing single compartment tank.

    We had a deal similar to yours a year ago on the Fourth of July weekend. A golf course with a restaurant and an Elks club in the same building had a very large Orenco system. They had taken the same approach to maintenance as your customer and had never serviced the filter, with the result that when it plugged the pumps ran dry and burned up. You could tell that they had been having problems for a while, due to the fact that the electrical connections in the splice box inside the riser were hacked, the sealoffs had been broken, and the splice box was sitting clear full of water. Also, instead of the control panel being set for alternating pump doses, it was switched to one pump, which had at least double the starts that the other one had. Funny thing was, the pumps finally failed on Friday afternoon of the Fourth of July weekend, so we had to pump all the sewage over the busy weekend until Tuesday. We overnighted a couple pumps on Monday, but of course it was Tuesday before they arrived and could be replaced. All in all if I remember right we pumped about 14000 gallons, plus our diagnostic service and replacing the pumps. Plus of course the electricians bill to repair what the Elks club volunteers had "fixed." I'm sure the laterals are full of sludge but we haven't heard anything since so it must be working.
    Kendall
    www.westseptic.com

    "Everything is changing. People are taking their comedians seriously and their politicians as a joke." Will Rogers

  4. #3
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Molalla, Oregon
    Posts
    778
    Thanks
    257
    Thanked 539 Times in 281 Posts

    Default

    Sounds like a nice job Kendal! I love it when you get a bunch of old farts together that can "fix" anything!!!

    This particular manufacturer puts their lid at the outlet over the baffle (which of course this one did not have). The county should have required a two compartment tank as they do now, but they allowed this sort of insanity back then. This was an approved system.

    Technically a basic pumper could not pump the tank without a licenced O&M person or installer to remove the pump.

    They will have a seperate vault for the pump when all is said and done.
    Clinkscales Portable Toilets
    & Septic Service

    http://www.ClinkscalesSeptic.com
    NAWT Certified Septic Inspector and Member
    O2WA Board Member

  5. #4
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    584
    Thanks
    185
    Thanked 312 Times in 203 Posts

    Default

    what do you have to do for septic maintance?
    Buy cheap, buy twice.

  6. #5
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Peoria, Illinois
    Posts
    1,090
    Thanks
    411
    Thanked 951 Times in 429 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by gear junkie View Post
    what do you have to do for septic maintance?
    Throw a hunk of road kill in her once a month, never hafta touch it again.

  7. The Following User Says Thank You to Colgar For This Useful Post:

    Redwood (08-16-2012)

  8. #6
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Molalla, Oregon
    Posts
    778
    Thanks
    257
    Thanked 539 Times in 281 Posts

    Default

    Let's see, a head of cabbage, brewers yeast, a chicken, the aforementioned road kill. Take your pick!

    This system needed to have the filter serviced at least once a year with it being in the septic tank. The tank should have been pumped at least two or three times depending on use. The sand filter should have had the manifold serviced three times at least. The pump should have been cleaned and inspetcted at least once a year (same time you service the bio tube filter).

    When the system gets repaired we will put it on an anual inspection where we will sludge judge the tank, check the bio tube, check the sand filter manifold and service any component that needs it. Hopefully I can talk them into installing a riser over the distribution box so we can easily monitor the drainfield too.
    Clinkscales Portable Toilets
    & Septic Service

    http://www.ClinkscalesSeptic.com
    NAWT Certified Septic Inspector and Member
    O2WA Board Member

  9. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Trent2 For This Useful Post:

    gear junkie (08-16-2012), Redwood (08-17-2012)

  10. #7
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Northeast Ohio
    Posts
    1,366
    Thanks
    215
    Thanked 1,052 Times in 559 Posts

    Default

    the line my dad always uses on em, "What can you possibly own, that's worth 10-15K, use every single day of your life, and not maintain at all?"
    Clear Drain Cleaning, LLC
    Dover, OH
    330-473-5263
    cleardraincleaning.com


  11. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to BuckeyeBowhunter For This Useful Post:

    dcman (08-16-2012), Redwood (08-17-2012)

  12. #8
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    1,126
    Thanks
    552
    Thanked 840 Times in 372 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Trent2 View Post
    the filter, the manifold, The pump, the distribution box
    So Trent, what kind of system is this? Pressure to gravity? The pump is only for lift only, not pressure distribution, and dumps into a D-box which feeds standard laterals? It all made sense to me until you mentioned a D-box.

    Or is it that the pump is pressure dosing the sand filter, and from the sand filter you are flowing by gravity to a D-box, which feeds standard laterals?
    Kendall
    www.westseptic.com

    "Everything is changing. People are taking their comedians seriously and their politicians as a joke." Will Rogers

  13. #9
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Molalla, Oregon
    Posts
    778
    Thanks
    257
    Thanked 539 Times in 281 Posts

    Default

    Pressure to the sand filter then gravity.
    Clinkscales Portable Toilets
    & Septic Service

    http://www.ClinkscalesSeptic.com
    NAWT Certified Septic Inspector and Member
    O2WA Board Member

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Spartan 300 Maintenance
    By rocksteady in forum Drum Drain Cleaning Machine Discussion
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 05-26-2011, 12:34 AM
  2. Thank God for lazy maintenance men...
    By 77transam in forum Shootin the $hit
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 03-26-2011, 09:23 PM
  3. Maintenance
    By Knox69 in forum Shootin the $hit
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 02-03-2011, 09:56 PM
  4. Drain Maintenance
    By HouseTrap in forum Ask The Expert Drain Cleaner
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 05-11-2010, 05:10 PM
  5. Electric Jetter Maintenance
    By UnclogNH in forum Sewer Jetter Discussion
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 03-20-2010, 05:52 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •