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    Quote Originally Posted by gretsch292 View Post
    So you were running water into the drain opening water while spinning the cable? or did you actually feed the pex tube into the cables somehow and send it downstream?

    I have faucet/aerator adapter that I use to get to a hose thread (or disconnect the supply tube if it's a flexy on a K/S or Lav) and then I have some other adapters and a valve that get me to 1/4" soft copper. I wedge that into the drain opening and run hot water after the drain is opened.



    Gettinit: I think that hot water would have been your friend with the icing, but a jetter might have produced a lot of backwash until you popped it open. What size cable and what type of cutter were you using? I like the 4-blade cutters on grease and other kitchen related soft blockages. They come in several different sizes. How far downstream was the blockage?

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    I used a 3" four blade. It was about 75' out. Hot water helped eventually but it took a while since it was full of cold water.
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    that sounds like a miserable one. glad you got it to go. Did you try a sludge blade? I try to use my cart jet whenever possible on those, BUT, do have a sludge blade for my Spartan 300 in case that doesn't work.
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    I'm about to order another batch of goodies from AJ Coleman. A 3&4" sludge buster will be ordered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gettinit View Post
    I'm about to order another batch of goodies from AJ Coleman. A 3&4" sludge buster will be ordered.
    lol

    just got off the phone w/ em this morning. jetter hose and a nozzle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gettinit View Post
    I used a 3" four blade. It was about 75' out. Hot water helped eventually but it took a while since it was full of cold water.
    With the 7/8" and 1.25" sectional cables, I always start with the 1.75" 4 blade cutter or the general spear tip to get the line flowing, then work up to bigger blades. Especially on grease or soft blockages. I don't even own a 3" 4-blade cutter for any of my sectionals. When I get up to bigger blades 3", 4", 6" they are either the sharktooth or pear cutters, or spiral cutters. Some guys like the big 4 blade cutters, I do not. I do have T-8 and T-9 spade head cutters that I use on grease lines in 4" and 6" though.

    Rodding with the K-60, K1500, K-50 or any other Ridgid/clutch style sectional you use a very different technique than with a drum. You can't try muscle your way through the line with bigger cutters right out of the gate like a drum. It's just not designed to work that way. In fact, the Ridgid instructions say to start with a straight auger or spear tip and then work your way up to bigger cutters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by affordabledrains View Post
    Did you try blow bag? What about the old rag trick?
    What's the rag trick please?

    Is your blow bag the same thing I call a flush bag?
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    In my experience, hot water is not your friend. It might getit to flow for a while but all it is doing is liquefying the problem andsending it elsware.

    Hat water can work but you need at least 15 GPMK to flush itdown the line
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    Quote Originally Posted by schulte View Post
    What's the rag trick please?

    Is your blow bag the same thing I call a flush bag?
    http://i21.geccdn.net/site/images/n-...up/GEW_4DF.jpg

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    The rag trick is to embed a rag in the center of your blades to form a plug to push a hole through a soft clog and get a flow going to be able to clean the line better with water flowing. You just have to make sure the rag comes back out. Duct Tape is my friend...
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    Gettinit
    At least you got it going. Its funny because I was just in your same situation last week and it sounds like thinking just what your thinking, I gotta get a jetter. Even if its just a electric cart jetter, something that can do 3 or 4 inch decently for roots or soft stoppages.

    The one I did was where the clay had actually settled right where it connected to the main. So from that point back to the house it was just acting like a big sediment trap collecting solids and letting the water go on by. It was plugged with soft sludge for about 10 to 15 feet. It was from about 60 ft out to 85 at the main. I could cable through it back and fourth but no luck. After every blade I could think to try and 4 hours later I had to walk away. I know the line had settled and told the customer that. My competition came in next day and jetted it and told her all was good. Well we know all they did was push everything into main and the problems just going to happen again. Its frustrating enough not having the right tools for the job sometimes but even worse when you have to walk away and feel about 2 ft tall. Its all a matter of money I guess.

    I look at it like this. If your good at what you do you can make due to get the job done. All the expensive fancy machines and stuff are nice but not a necessity. You'll just end up being that much better of a drain cleaner by having to do it the old fashoned way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeBowhunter View Post
    that sounds like a miserable one. glad you got it to go. Did you try a sludge blade? I try to use my cart jet whenever possible on those, BUT, do have a sludge blade for my Spartan 300 in case that doesn't work.


    What is this "sludge blade" you speak of ?

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